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I could be wrong, but I think that this is the first time that Hunter has acknowledged that The Revenger just might be more trouble than its worth.

So, #Squirrel and I just got back from seeing Logan…FINALLY. I have to say, it is hands down the finest film in the X-Men franchise. The next closest is Deadpool, and Logan is just plain a better film, for me, anyway. Now, I have to confess that I haven’t seen either of the previous Wolverine films, and I skipped both Days of Future Past and Age of Apocalypse. I’ve yet to hear a ringing endorsement of any of those four films, so I’m not planning to change that.





The X-Men films that I have seen haven’t done Wolverine justice. Hugh Jackman has always been great as the character, but they’ve always missed out on that key element that makes the character work, his driving need to be better than the animalistic killing machine that he sees himself as. Sometimes they’ve tried to hit that note, but they’ve always failed to make it work. (Now’s a good time to say that The Usual Suspects is the only Bryan Singer film I’ve ever enjoyed. He and Zack Snyder will be seated at the same table if #Squirrel and I ever renew our vows.) The earlier films also always seem to miss out on the fatherly elements that have always been a part of Wolverine’s nature; his father-daughter relationships, most notably with Kitty Pryde, have shown him at his most successful at being more man than monster. I’m not spoiling anything to say that X-23 is in many ways the engine that makes this film go, and these two key themes/elements are at the forefront of this remarkable film.

I’ve seen A LOT of superhero films. I’m not prepared to put this one at the top of the heap…or even necessarily in the top five. The comparisons to The Dark Knight aren’t really apt. This film had a great deal more in common with The Dark Knight Rises, insofar as each of them presents to us the end of a hero’s journey. The Dark Knight Rises really didn’t stick the landing. It was sort of a jumbled mess that never felt like it was about BATMAN, while Logan is very much about Wolverine. X-23 and Charles Xavier and Caliban and Pierce (great performance by that guy, by the way, whoever he was) are simply well-crafted lenses through which we see Wolverine as he proceeds to the end of the line.

I heartily recommend this film. Do NOT bring your kids. It’s not for them. Logan is a film for adults, for reasons beyond the language and brutal violence.

(Also, I will endlessly be grateful to James Mangold for having X-23 just GO OFF on Logan in rapid fire Spanish. It helped put my marriage in perspective. Heh-heh-heh.)

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  • Ruth’s husband Ben

    So, what if Hunter accidentally succeeds at stealing it?

    • ONail

      Ah, i just wanted to write about it.
      There is price of wizards’ “services”, take Zezem for example – it’s a deal with the devil. And if Tezem offers his help… then Hunter will have to succeed at stealing the purse 🙂
      I believe, on the next page we’re going to see exactly that.

      • Justin Peniston

        Oh man. We’ll just have to see.

  • motorfirebox

    I think Logan is probably the most well-crafted superhero movie in the modern era. It sets out to do some very specific things, and it accomplishes those things pretty much perfectly.

    This might be a little odd, but I think my favorite part of the film was Dafne Keen’s physical acting, especially in the combat scenes. The margin for error in that kind of thing is very small. The shots of this tiny little kid flipping around the battlefield stabbing gigantic muscle-bound tough guys—do those the slightest bit one way or the other, and it becomes comedic and/or cartoonish. But they way Mangold has her do it, putting her entire body into every motion, it provides both a level of realism and it goes a long way towards revealing Laura’s character.

    • Justin Peniston

      Dafne Keen was a revelation, no doubt. The movie doesn’t work half as well with a different actress.

      Man, is it the most well-crafted? It’s definitely in the running…but only if you eliminate The Incredibles from contention for being animated. In my opinion, The Incredibles is the single best piece of superhero fiction put onto the large screen.

      The Dark Knight has a bit too much going on, and lasts about twenty minutes too long as a result. It’s all good stuff, but there’s a difference between good and NECESSARY. Both The Avengers and Civil War capture the essence of a comic book better than any other superhero film.

      Logan is so much better than any other X-Men film, I almost don’t want to consider it an X-Men film. There’s Logan, there’s Deadpool, and nothing else.

      • motorfirebox

        Haha, yeah, almost better to pretend it’s a separate franchise. The Wolverine was… good, I think? I don’t recall being appalled by it.

        • MSD3000

          The 1st Wolverine was rather forgettable for 90% of the movie, which was unfortunate, given how UNforgettably bad their take on Deadpool was at the end. It overshadowed anything else about the film. The second film was similar, but lacked the “something terrible” at the end to overshadow the rest of it, so it’s just forgettable but unoffensive.
          Personally, my favorite comic movie ever is Watchmen. But I admit it’s it a slightly different niche of comic movie than most. That is, the re-telling of a specific comic story. a-la Sin City or 300.
          Of the more free-form movies, I’d say Deadpool and Avengers rank about even for me.
          I could not tell whether it’s more difficult to directly retell a comic and make it work, or to rebuild an alternate universe like Marvel movies. So I’d just call them different.

          • Justin Peniston

            Ye gods, I loved the comic Watchmen so much. Watching the movie was painfully dull for me, because clearly Zack Snyder felt the same way. There was so little changed.

            The big problem was that the film adapted a 12-issue story, and thus resisted traditional three-act structure. That made for a what I thought a dreadfully boring experience. Seriously, the most exciting part of the film for me was the opening credits, because they were almost wholly original.


            I didn’t miss the alien at the end one little bit, it was one of Snyder’s few pieces of originality. I wish he’d put in more surprises.

            But my complaints come from being almost TOO familiar with the comic. I concede that they’re less about the quality of the film and more about my own experience with the story.

          • MSD3000

            It’s a very fair critique of the film, which is why I always make sure to point out that’s it’s my favorite, and not “the best”. In truth, I tend to watch the Watchmen in 2 to 3 sessions when just viewing on my own (similar to Return of the King: Extended)
            As you say, it doesn’t have a solid 3-act structure, which makes it easier to break it into smaller viewing chunks.
            And yes, the opening credit are genius use of montage. And ditching the vagina monster was a good call, although I remember purists howling about the change when it came out.

        • Justin Peniston

          I haven’t heard enough good things to justify me setting aside two hours of my time to see it.

          • motorfirebox

            That is entirely fair. You’re not really missing much.

  • motorfirebox

    Oh, speaking of geekery: I would genuinely recommend skipping Netflix’s Iron Fist, unless you’re a true masochist fanboy idiot like me who absolutely must watch everything Marvel. It’s unimaginative, the choreography budget seemed almost non-existent, and the entirety of the plot is driven by people making blatantly moronic decisions for absolutely no apparent reason. I cannot think of a single choice that any character made, that I thought was clever and/or interesting. Even when the decisions they made weren’t dumb, they were obvious and uninspired. And probably at complete odds with the decisions they made five minutes previous.

    • Ruth’s husband Ben

      I agree. I went through the first episode and thought: that is the best they could do with this character? They could have made it work, hell, I’m not a screen writer and I could have done better. Funny, though, it made Luke Cage look fast paced.

      • Justin Peniston

        I haven’t even watched Luke Cage yet. #Squirrel has a crush on Mike Colter, so we’re waiting until she finishes with Jessica Jones, which I HAVE watched, to pick up Luke Cage. But that’s taking forever.

        I’m noticing two kinds of Iron Fist reactions: people who just don’t like it, and people who like the character too much to care about its flaws.

  • Storel

    So Tzezziwig doesn’t see a downside, either!